5th Dimension Site Director
Professor, UC San Diego
When you're playing a game with somebody else, the crucial quality of it is the with-ness of it. Not for somebody else, not observing somebody else, not observing somebody else, but playing a game with somebody else. And when you're doing that, you're helping each other try to achieve whatever the goals are that you're trying to achieve. So that rule of thumb works very well because there is not hard and fast rule. The hard and fast rule is lets be having a good time but be engaging in the materials.